The cuesports enthusiasts site
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

3 Pages<123>
Colesy Offline
#21 Posted : 12 April 2012 21:15:42(UTC)
Colesy

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Wimbledon Comp, Registered
Joined: 17/10/2003(UTC)
Posts: 1,929
Man
Location: Devon

Thanks: 330 times
Was thanked: 320 time(s) in 201 post(s)
Originally Posted by: lancashireoatcake Go to Quoted Post
Every EPA Cardholder event.


Ok thanks.
lancashireoatcake Offline
#22 Posted : 12 April 2012 21:21:09(UTC)
lancashireoatcake

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 22/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,178
Man
Location: Staffordshire

Thanks: 234 times
Was thanked: 334 time(s) in 218 post(s)
So not banned from Golden Cue, WEPF Worlds, and I think Champion of Champions.

Hopefully someone like Shap can confirm that.
My opinion should just be accepted as objectivity itself.
spotsandstripes Offline
#23 Posted : 12 April 2012 21:26:15(UTC)
spotsandstripes

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 02/08/2008(UTC)
Posts: 1,335
Man
United Kingdom
Location: scarbados

Thanks: 303 times
Was thanked: 273 time(s) in 196 post(s)
golden cue is an EPA cardholer event. i went in it 3 years ago, for the first time, an they initially told me i had to register for the EPA. i was already playing county, so it didnt matter, but i was under the impression if we entered a team this year i would of had to reregister.
as long as you're in the discussion as to who the greatest in your sport is, you've done all right.
lancashireoatcake Offline
#24 Posted : 12 April 2012 21:41:33(UTC)
lancashireoatcake

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 22/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,178
Man
Location: Staffordshire

Thanks: 234 times
Was thanked: 334 time(s) in 218 post(s)
Yeah might be the case mate.
My opinion should just be accepted as objectivity itself.
Jonaldinho Offline
#25 Posted : 12 April 2012 23:32:47(UTC)
Jonaldinho

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 07/02/2007(UTC)
Posts: 1,665
Man

Thanks: 2481 times
Was thanked: 430 time(s) in 310 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Colesy Go to Quoted Post
If a player played BB county, what would he be banned from regarding the EPA?

It's not as simple as that. Or, to be more precise, it's not as simple as just "a player"...

A player is only bound by the terms of EPA membership from the day he actually signs-up for his membership. So, basically, before a player signs-up for his EPA membership he can play all the Blackball "County" he likes without recourse - it's only after he has signed-up for his EPA membership that he can no longer play Blackball "County".

What length of ban/fine an EPA cardholder found guilty of playing Blackball "County" would receive is anyone's guess (they may not be banned at all, just fined, or perhaps a combination of the two...), but any ban/unpaid fine would prevent them from playing in any EPA event, cardholder or otherwise.

Edited by user 13 April 2012 07:40:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Jonaldinho Offline
#26 Posted : 12 April 2012 23:33:35(UTC)
Jonaldinho

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 07/02/2007(UTC)
Posts: 1,665
Man

Thanks: 2481 times
Was thanked: 430 time(s) in 310 post(s)
Originally Posted by: spotsandstripes Go to Quoted Post
golden cue is an EPA cardholer event. i went in it 3 years ago, for the first time, an they initially told me i had to register for the EPA. i was already playing county, so it didnt matter, but i was under the impression if we entered a team this year i would of had to reregister.
Golden Cue is not a cardholder event.
8balltiger Offline
#27 Posted : 13 April 2012 01:20:41(UTC)
8balltiger

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/08/2003(UTC)
Posts: 1,165
Man
Location: Sheffield and Barnsley.

Thanks: 305 times
Was thanked: 418 time(s) in 273 post(s)
So Blackball county players can enter the Golden Cue unless they've paid for an EPA card ? ! ? !
S U F C
 1 user thanked 8balltiger for this useful post.
Rich Wharton on 16/04/2012(UTC)
Jonaldinho Offline
#28 Posted : 13 April 2012 07:39:16(UTC)
Jonaldinho

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 07/02/2007(UTC)
Posts: 1,665
Man

Thanks: 2481 times
Was thanked: 430 time(s) in 310 post(s)
Unless they have outstanding debt or disciplinary sanctions to EPA, anyone can enter the Golden Cue.
dyson1991 Offline
#29 Posted : 13 April 2012 12:02:06(UTC)
dyson1991

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered, Unapproved
Joined: 18/08/2011(UTC)
Posts: 62
Location: southampton

Thanks: 59 times
Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 9 post(s)
please some1 clarify this. I have been banned by my county(which is EPA affiliated). Stitch up gits! Anyhow I have been entered in a Golden Cue team. Presuming I can not play? Unless the region overturn this decision?
Jewpiece Offline
#30 Posted : 13 April 2012 12:10:27(UTC)
Jewpiece

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/05/2007(UTC)
Posts: 8

Thanks: 11 times
Was thanked: 6 time(s) in 4 post(s)
Originally Posted by: dyson1991 Go to Quoted Post
please some1 clarify this. I have been banned by my county(which is EPA affiliated). Stitch up gits! Anyhow I have been entered in a Golden Cue team. Presuming I can not play? Unless the region overturn this decision?


You will not be able to play.

Consider the Golden 8 Ball event instead:

http://www.golden8ball.co.uk/

 2 users thanked Jewpiece for this useful post.
dyson1991 on 13/04/2012(UTC), lancashireoatcake on 15/04/2012(UTC)
salford8ball Offline
#31 Posted : 14 April 2012 23:16:09(UTC)
salford8ball

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered, Unapproved
Joined: 29/09/2011(UTC)
Posts: 18
Man
Location: Greater Manchester

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Jewpiece Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: dyson1991 Go to Quoted Post
please some1 clarify this. I have been banned by my county(which is EPA affiliated). Stitch up gits! Anyhow I have been entered in a Golden Cue team. Presuming I can not play? Unless the region overturn this decision?


You will not be able to play.

Consider the Golden 8 Ball event instead:

http://www.golden8ball.co.uk/



As we know the Golden Cue is not a cardholder event, so therefore if a player has indeed been banned from a county, surely that foregoes this tournament and shouldn't reflect a players ability to play in it.
I have had the entry form looked at, and as it doesn't state any requirement to be affiliated to anyone or hold a card to any organisation/governing body or promoter, then they can't withhold your entry.

Be interesting to see how this one pans out.
Always beware the smiling stranger who offers a handshake.......
Rupe Offline
#32 Posted : 15 April 2012 01:16:27(UTC)
Rupe

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/07/2001(UTC)
Posts: 641

Thanks: 54 times
Was thanked: 321 time(s) in 196 post(s)
Originally Posted by: salford8ball Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jewpiece Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: dyson1991 Go to Quoted Post
please some1 clarify this. I have been banned by my county(which is EPA affiliated). Stitch up gits! Anyhow I have been entered in a Golden Cue team. Presuming I can not play? Unless the region overturn this decision?


You will not be able to play.

Consider the Golden 8 Ball event instead:

http://www.golden8ball.co.uk/



As we know the Golden Cue is not a cardholder event, so therefore if a player has indeed been banned from a county, surely that foregoes this tournament and shouldn't reflect a players ability to play in it.
I have had the entry form looked at, and as it doesn't state any requirement to be affiliated to anyone or hold a card to any organisation/governing body or promoter, then they can't withhold your entry.

Be interesting to see how this one pans out.

As Jon's been saying, being banned is NOT the same as not
being a cardholder. So the fact that you don't have to be
a cardholder does not mean that a banned player can enter.

If someone's been banned from all EPA events then I think
it'd be quite disingenuous to assume that they're not banned
from this one unless explictly and specifically told that
they're banned from it.

Or, put another way, I don't think it's necessary for the
entry form for any event to say that one of the requirements
for entry to the event is that you haven't been banned from it.

 1 user thanked Rupe for this useful post.
Jonaldinho on 16/04/2012(UTC)
creggan Offline
#33 Posted : 15 April 2012 07:22:41(UTC)
creggan

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 06/05/2008(UTC)
Posts: 898
Man
Location: United Kingdom

Thanks: 211 times
Was thanked: 101 time(s) in 78 post(s)
Originally Posted by: dyson1991 Go to Quoted Post
please some1 clarify this. I have been banned by my county(which is EPA affiliated). Stitch up gits! Anyhow I have been entered in a Golden Cue team. Presuming I can not play? Unless the region overturn this decision?

I think the point here is have you been actually banned or just had your EPA card suspended.
salford8ball Offline
#34 Posted : 15 April 2012 23:24:30(UTC)
salford8ball

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered, Unapproved
Joined: 29/09/2011(UTC)
Posts: 18
Man
Location: Greater Manchester

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Rupe Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: salford8ball Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jewpiece Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: dyson1991 Go to Quoted Post
please some1 clarify this. I have been banned by my county(which is EPA affiliated). Stitch up gits! Anyhow I have been entered in a Golden Cue team. Presuming I can not play? Unless the region overturn this decision?


You will not be able to play.

Consider the Golden 8 Ball event instead:

http://www.golden8ball.co.uk/



As we know the Golden Cue is not a cardholder event, so therefore if a player has indeed been banned from a county, surely that foregoes this tournament and shouldn't reflect a players ability to play in it.
I have had the entry form looked at, and as it doesn't state any requirement to be affiliated to anyone or hold a card to any organisation/governing body or promoter, then they can't withhold your entry.

Be interesting to see how this one pans out.

As Jon's been saying, being banned is NOT the same as not
being a cardholder. So the fact that you don't have to be
a cardholder does not mean that a banned player can enter.

If someone's been banned from all EPA events then I think
it'd be quite disingenuous to assume that they're not banned
from this one unless explictly and specifically told that
they're banned from it.

Or, put another way, I don't think it's necessary for the
entry form for any event to say that one of the requirements
for entry to the event is that you haven't been banned from it.



Not to labour a point, but if the EPA aren't the official stated runners of the event, as it is indepentandlty, how can anything under their banning policy affect the entrants ??
Always beware the smiling stranger who offers a handshake.......
Rich Wharton Offline
#35 Posted : 16 April 2012 07:49:53(UTC)
Rich Wharton

Rank: Administration

Groups: Registered, Moderators, Administrators
Joined: 05/12/2006(UTC)
Posts: 2,054
Man

Thanks: 985 times
Was thanked: 816 time(s) in 556 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 8balltiger Go to Quoted Post
So Blackball county players can enter the Golden Cue unless they've paid for an EPA card ? ! ? !



Best comment on this thread by a country mile.
Please visit my website: www.onelittlevoice.co.uk
Follow me on Twitter: @1LVoice
Rupe Offline
#36 Posted : 16 April 2012 09:23:35(UTC)
Rupe

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/07/2001(UTC)
Posts: 641

Thanks: 54 times
Was thanked: 321 time(s) in 196 post(s)
Originally Posted by: salford8ball Go to Quoted Post

Not to labour a point, but if the EPA aren't the official stated runners of the event, as it is indepentandlty, how can anything under their banning policy affect the entrants ??

Huh? We are talking about the Golden Cue here. I think there are at least some
hints in the entry form (available on the EPA website), like the way it consistently
refers to the event as "The EPA Golden Cue", the way several of the rules refer
to "the organisers EPA", oh and there's rule 20 where it says

"Organised by English Pool Association".

Edited by user 16 April 2012 09:25:27(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

 4 users thanked Rupe for this useful post.
The Silurian on 16/04/2012(UTC), creggan on 16/04/2012(UTC), 8balltiger on 17/04/2012(UTC), TomH on 18/04/2012(UTC)
creggan Offline
#37 Posted : 16 April 2012 10:32:03(UTC)
creggan

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 06/05/2008(UTC)
Posts: 898
Man
Location: United Kingdom

Thanks: 211 times
Was thanked: 101 time(s) in 78 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Rupe Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: salford8ball Go to Quoted Post

Not to labour a point, but if the EPA aren't the official stated runners of the event, as it is indepentandlty, how can anything under their banning policy affect the entrants ??

Huh? We are talking about the Golden Cue here. I think there are at least some
hints in the entry form (available on the EPA website), like the way it consistently
refers to the event as "The EPA Golden Cue", the way several of the rules refer
to "the organisers EPA", oh and there's rule 20 where it says

"Organised by English Pool Association".

Very good comment Rupe but as someone said on another forum topic pool players very rarely actually read the forms they sign.RollEyes

Edited by user 16 April 2012 10:33:23(UTC)  | Reason: added to post

The Silurian Offline
#38 Posted : 18 April 2012 10:08:37(UTC)
The Silurian

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/11/2011(UTC)
Posts: 365
Location: jaw snookered

Thanks: 181 times
Was thanked: 101 time(s) in 71 post(s)
EPA have now issued the spreadsheet of all players banned / suspended. My oh my..haven't R7 been busy....
Differences and diversity should not be seen as sources of division and distrust, but of strength and inspiration.

craigpool Offline
#39 Posted : 18 April 2012 18:17:49(UTC)
craigpool

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 135

Thanks: 8 times
Was thanked: 9 time(s) in 8 post(s)
where can we see this list? now is it only players that have moved or been naughty? or have they gone as far to find out other org players names?



if you care for pool stop creaming off the top
ddavis Offline
#40 Posted : 18 April 2012 19:03:44(UTC)
ddavis

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered, Administrators
Joined: 20/07/2001(UTC)
Posts: 2,745

Thanks: 539 times
Was thanked: 569 time(s) in 434 post(s)
Originally Posted by: The Silurian Go to Quoted Post
EPA have now issued the spreadsheet of all players banned / suspended. My oh my..haven't R7 been busy....


Who's on the list? Did I make it? (despite not having had a card for years)
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages<123>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2013, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.378 seconds.
 

Partners

Golden 8 Ball

Translate

copyright © cueclubinternational.com