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On 26 March 2012 12:59, FLAHERTY DAVID <david.flaherty8@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi All Over the last few day's I have been presented with a problem with banned/ suspended pool player's Can you please check within your County and proved me with your current list. Please do this in excel as attached Thanks
Dave is R3 Director and has sent this request to the affiliated Counties. I am unaware of any such cases within our County.
However it would be of some interest to learn if any other Counties have received similar requests from their respective RD's, or whether this is a R3 specific, suggesting our Admin isn't all it could be.
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Am I Banned Silurian?
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Originally Posted by: lancashireoatcake  Am I Banned Silurian?
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Don't know m8..I always thought that any ban / suspension of card was a matter for the EPA disciplinary committee and that records of any such action would be both kept and notified to the respective Region. Seems I could have been wrong. I am aware that Local Leagues / Inter leagues and even Counties can take such action, but that these should in turn be communicated up the ladder in the event of the player concerned submitting and appeal. If R3 do not have the records then clearly something is not working from an admin point of view..be that up or down the ladder. My gut feeling is that EPA and Regions wish to tidy up all and any existing paperwork prior to embarking on some sort of witch hunt..but I could be wrong. | Differences and diversity should not be seen as sources of division and distrust, but of strength and inspiration.
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I don't think you are wrong. I know that other regions have been asked to supply lists of banned players.
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Maintaining one single list of all players with outstanding monies or disciplinary sanctions is a very good idea IMO, it's something I used to do on a much smaller scale within the old Region 3. Far too many players slip "through the net" and manage to enter things like National Amateurs when they owe counties/regions money, and likewise counties often may not be aware when registering inter-league/county players if someone has bounced a cheque to the national body. Entirely sensible thing to do IMO. Edited by user 02 April 2012 16:53:01(UTC)
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I find it absurd that anyone can be under sanction and it not be on the database. | S U F C |
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Absurd or otherwise, it still wouldn't solve the problem as county officers will only have access to their own counties records, regional officers only to their own region's records, for example, not to those of other counties/regions where players may be transferring from etc. Edited by user 03 April 2012 12:50:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonaldinho  Absurd or otherwise, it still wouldn't solve the problem as county officers will only have access to their own counties records, regional officers only to their own region's records, for example, not to those of other counties/regions where players may be transferring from etc. so whats the point of a list then ? people keep mentioning that the reason the EPA still rule, is because the BB mob arent as organised. well f*** me, that BB must be bad | as long as you're in the discussion as to who the greatest in your sport is, you've done all right. |
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That's just adding to the absurdity. | S U F C |
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Originally Posted by: spotsandstripes  Originally Posted by: Jonaldinho  Absurd or otherwise, it still wouldn't solve the problem as county officers will only have access to their own counties records, regional officers only to their own region's records, for example, not to those of other counties/regions where players may be transferring from etc. so whats the point of a list then ? people keep mentioning that the reason the EPA still rule, is because the BB mob arent as organised. well feck me, that BB must be bad At risk of answering a rhetorical question, the point of such a list -at least the way I envisaged it working- was that it was circulated to everyone on a fairly regular basis. I used to email the old Region 3 one to each county alongside each set of regional meeting minutes, and I'd also CC in the other RDs and national officers.
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Originally Posted by: Jonaldinho  Originally Posted by: spotsandstripes  Originally Posted by: Jonaldinho  Absurd or otherwise, it still wouldn't solve the problem as county officers will only have access to their own counties records, regional officers only to their own region's records, for example, not to those of other counties/regions where players may be transferring from etc. so whats the point of a list then ? people keep mentioning that the reason the EPA still rule, is because the BB mob arent as organised. well feck me, that BB must be bad At risk of answering a rhetorical question, the point of such a list -at least the way I envisaged it working- was that it was circulated to everyone on a fairly regular basis. I used to email the old Region 3 one to each county alongside each set of regional meeting minutes, and I'd also CC in the other RDs and national officers. And I thought that that was how it should be done anyway. Clearly not. Yes, there should be such a database and Officers / Organisers / TD's should have access to it so that any ban / suspension can be enforced..otherwise there seems no point in the disciplinary action in the first place. I still wonder why EPA have started this now though. | Differences and diversity should not be seen as sources of division and distrust, but of strength and inspiration.
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To be fair I've been pushing for it for a few years now.
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Originally Posted by: Jonaldinho  To be fair I've been pushing for it for a few years now. Maybe this is why Read this
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now the real banning will happen! i see only epa shooting them self in the foot here |
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Dont understand this thread, the EPA does have a list of all its players, all of us who have access can see the list of players registered.
Although I can agree with Sullarian, witch hunts do happen, I saw it first hand last year with my Inter-League team with innocent players, from which has now seen those players say 'why should I play for a body who does check its records, and blindly bans players - sorry suspends - without any investigation first.......
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Originally Posted by: creggan  Originally Posted by: Jonaldinho  To be fair I've been pushing for it for a few years now. Maybe this is why Read this Given that news only broke a day or so ago, I doubt that is why I have been pushing for a list for a few years now...
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Rather than start another topic, I will use this one....
If a player played BB county, what would he be banned from regarding the EPA?
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How do you get banned for life by the EPA? I' m really interested as the west mids county captain keeps pestering me to play,and well,I'd rather have a leg off.Can you sort that for me dan? Not the leg lol.
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Don't worry Chilts mate. It won't be very long before we're all banned for life mate.
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